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I watched a video this morning that amplified my growing understanding of how much that we do is shaped by our evolutionary history. That, in turn, is shaped by the drive to survive:\u00a0http:\/\/www.ynharari.com\/role-scientists-debate-animal-welfare\/<\/a><\/p>\n

Evolution is a topic that first interested me tangentially, in relation to food choices. The more I read, though, the more questions it answers…and raises.<\/p>\n

This morning I heard a discussion about AI (Artificial Intelligence), the pros…and the concerns raised by some, including Stephen Hawkings, that these machines may become more intelligent than we are and behave in destructive ways or ways we don\u2019t choose for them to behave. Could they ultimately destroy us?<\/p>\n

This is not a fantasy concern. A scientist who supports research in AI points out that human beings succeeded as they did because they are smart. While I think this point is debatable \u2014 and in fact Yuval Noah Harari, the author of the video I link to here, suggests something different that makes more sense to me: humans beings survived and prevailed over all other animals because of their ability to imagine and persuade others to buy into a fiction. This ability allowed them to organize and cooperate in large groups, larger than any other species.<\/p>\n

But back to the concerns. In this context, I wonder about the power of evolution and the desire to survive that drives it \u2014 and how that desire shapes \u201cintelligence.\u201d I wonder if a machine can ever show the same kind of intelligence as a human without having implanted in it that same drive to survive? Without that, a machine\u2019s intelligence will evolve very differently.<\/p>\n

At least two possibilities suggest themselves to me. And I\u2019m sure there are more. Without the drive to survive, machines can\u2019t be particularly intelligent. With it, they could well decide it is in their interest to destroy us. Isn\u2019t that what we have done to other species and even other human beings? Destroyed them because of a perceived benefit to our survival?<\/p>\n

Seems to me we face both potential payback and a conundrum.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I watched a video this morning that amplified my growing understanding of how much that we do is shaped by our evolutionary history. That, in turn, is shaped by the drive to survive:\u00a0http:\/\/www.ynharari.com\/role-scientists-debate-animal-welfare\/ Evolution is a topic that first interested me tangentially, <\/p>\n

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